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OMG Vic - saw your ticker, your wedding is only just round the corner!! It's so exciting!!!! And thanks for the reply, hun, you've really put my mind at rest - it's hard isn't it with food as you so want them to eat and when they don't you start to worry!!!! On top of that I feel sooooo guilty these days for working full-time it's just horrible. Anyway not for long and then I'll feel guilty about having another baby and splitting my time between the two.... aaarrgh.

Sorry to hear you're being worked so hard, let's hope they can sort the shifts out for you!! And as for the weight-loss, you go girl, well done you!!!

see you all soon

Lxxx

evening
grrr all i seem to do is moan on here lately lol
well knee is feeling ok but bruised still all is healing well i think
had another flare up of gall bladder i keep throwing up everything and have terrible ripping pains across the top right hand side of tummy matt bless him called emergency gp out who advised me that really i needed to go into hospital again and i explained that iv been into hospital so many times id try and sit it out this time he gave me an anti spasm injection and anti sickness injection
that was 3 days ago im still feeling like poo had no sleep at all and havent got a clue what i can and cant eat grrr its so stressing

the kids are being really good bless them exept from tonite when all i want to do is curl up on the sofa and all they want to do is play arrrrgggghhhh lol
right moan over for a bit really need to go sort the monsters out lol

Hello

I'll stick my two pence worth in too Loocy. Yes you are being dumb stop worrying (hee hee, listen to me!). I read somewhere that if babies kept eating and piling on weight at the rate they do in the first year by the time they're sixteen they'd be 500 foot tall and weigh 10 tonnes!!!! (ok I'm exaggerating but you get the drift...) Puts it into perspective doesn't it?

I'm worrying about finger food. What is everyone else giving? Don't think I need to concern myself about hand eye co-ordination though, as when he gets peas he picks them out individually and pops them in his mouth, takes FOREVER to have a meal! I've started trying to give Alfie the same as us, mind you poor wee man didn't like haggis!!! bit too spicy I think, but he's a scotsman so he had to try it

Hey Sam - what can we say to make you feel better? It's truly one thing after another! Do you think you'll have to get your gall bladder removed and be done with it? You can do without it fairly easily can't you, a friend had it done a few years ago.

AND can't believe you're thinking of extra babies now too!!!!

Laura are you and me the only sane ones left???

Loocy - you'll have to give us an update on baby movements. How does this preganacy compare? Are you feeling much yet? Think I was around the 16 week mark.

Vicki - were are you having your ceremony? Can't remember what you said? Have you got bridesmaids? I KNOW you have a flower girl and a very cute one at that!

Hope everyone is well. Summer you're unusually quiet. I'm assuming you're off doing medical/law degrees inbetween looking after the babies Hope the boys and Daisy are well xxx

Summer: Yes do come on and let us know alls well hun xxx

Mari: The ceremony is in the local council gardens . They are some of the most beautiful gardens here, green and lots of roses and a gazebo to wed in.
The function after is just metres away in the local sports centre.
Bridesmaid is my soon to be Sil whos 15 and will make a wonderful bridesmaid, shes just drop dead gorgeous!

Loocy: Glad could help settle any worries hun. Motto: Just go with the flow of them...Some weeks they eat well and let you feed them etc, the next week it will be something different lol! Your heading into "toddler hood" ( the age of MANY stubborn moments / independence/ finding them selves etc) so Try not to stress over it as long as they are happy and healthy alls well xxx The weight loss: Yes it could be the cows milk AND shes way more active now so could also explain a loss, just keep a check on it and if keeps going though I would consult your GP etc, probably just cos shes more active now though and it should stabilize soon.
Lots of finger foods will help too, shes becoming more independent. Also if I think shes not had enough then I top up with a milk after meals.
Yes isnt time going too fast for everything! the wedding AND our little ones growing so quick, to think Katie will be our walking flower girl in just under 4 months!

Finger food Mari: everything! Katie gets fruit or vegie chunks like cubes of potato, and broccoli / cauliflower etc. Oh and corn on the cob to chew! Big favourite and messy hehe but lots of fun sucking and chewing. Another is fruit bars, they have fruit inside a soft biscuit coating. Cheeses and rice crackers.

Sam: Ya poor love! Hope things settle for you soon. big hugs!

Well must go, still trying recover from other night 12 hrs shift! Thank goodness last one of those, boss is still trying fix it to 5 hr shifts, if he cant im off to new job, just cant keep doing this and look after a home and family!

Love to all

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Hey guys haven't had time to read recent posts... having a helluva night.. think Daisy must be coming down with something. Either that or its the mumps bit of the MMR kicking in

Ha ha you're not far off Mari... have now decided that the cause of Tom's size etc is something called Russell-Silver Syndrome. Have discovered that there are 4 known cases of it occurring in just one twin of identical twins. Something to do with wierd gene things going on. Emailed his consultant about it yesterday.
Got to dash, Tom yelling now xxxxxxxx

Another superfast post!

Tom's consultant has emailed me back and says hes not experienced that condition himself but it sounds feasible that Tom may have it. Hes referring Tom to the genetisist who comes to Winchester to hold a clinic. He also gave me his own mobile number in case I have any worries. Nice man

just a quick one b4 im off out
my sister in law had a baby girl weighing 6lb 4ozs by emergency c section at 9 am yesterday morning oooohhhhh im off out to buy PINK arrrgghhh i cant believe it now i really am broody lolmums ok apart from the usual she was in full blown labour then the midwife discoverd undiagnosed breech cant even begin to think how scared she was its her first anyway im off to buy PINK lol
hope everyone is ok

Hi Sam

Just saw your post on the Jan 08 preggie thread regarding your sil. As I said over there my ds was undiag breech and his legs used to be up by his ears too (made changing a nappy great fun!!). It sorted itself out gradually over about 6 weeks and then we had to go to clinic to check whether he had clicky hips or not (which is apparently common with breech babies). We went periodically until he was about a year old when they discharged us as all was ok. Hope that helps your sil!!

Ali
xxx

hi all

a quick one as I'm a bit washed out (AF..boo hiss)and knackered!!!

Sam - congrats to your SIL...have you been to see them yet? Cute!Brought back memories for me as K was undiagnosed breech and emerg. C section!! Of course we then had the hip drama too, so I hope the little one is ok!!!! Usually they ultrasound them at 2 weeks, quite common for first born girls to have "clicky hips" and need treatment but not always so hope it's ok!

Summer - read up on the Russel syndrome thing. How did you identify that??? I don't think he looks from the photos like he has a triangular shaped head/face? but therewere lots of diff symptoms weren't there. you are so on the ball - so good that your cons. is supportive!!!

Vicki - the ceremony sounds lovely. can't wait to see some photos of your lovely little one being flower girl!!!

Mari - yes, I guess we are the only sane ones!!!! he he he. no plans as yet - we're talking about trying maybe the end of next year. Too many things to do between now and then. BIL getting married in Cyprus in Oct and we are hoping to go see my family in canada next year. if we can afford it!

Loocy - how's things? K is def getting more naughty - or "testing the boundries" Noticed the last few weeks she really responds to my "NO" (pointing finger) and knows when she is in trouble. Luckily so far she responds to it!!!! Finger foods....fruit mainly. She LOVES orange segments (messy) and pear. I'm quite lucky that at the moment K eats really well all the time. I know I would worry too if she didn't!!

Well- better go and lie down a bit more!!!! he he he. Did I tell you I'm weaning K (you'll be pleased to hear Mari!!!!) So far we are down to one early morning feed/suckle (not sure there is much milk left now!!!). Hoping to wean off that over next few weeks. Means I can go back to yoga!!! yay!!!

Love to all

Lx

Hi girls!
Congrats to your sil Sam. Did you buy lots of pink? Reeeeeaaalllly hope all your probs are sorted soon and you need no more painkillers/trips to hospital/ops for the rest of the year!!!
Boo to af Laura. I've still not had one yet. Still feeding overnight. Not had the energy to restart the no feeding/in the cot routine yet. Must do soon. Things are just crazy the way they are.
Can't wait to see the wedding pics Vicki I could try and work it out from your ticker... but whats the actual wedding date again??
Oh gawd... Jake yelling his head off now. Full of cold AGAIN and really hard to settle at the mo. He hasn't been to sleep yet tonight. I've spent most of the eve trying to get him off and gave up and popped him in the cot.
Must go sort him out. Back in a bit hopefully xxxxxxxx

God they're like a tag team tonight. No sooner than I'd settled Jake finally than Daisy decided to cry for me (daddy wouldn't do), and then Tom started

Anyway!
Laura someone on the Bliss forum pointed me in the direction of The Child Growth Foundation (I'd never heard of it!) and they have a booklet all about IUGR/RSS. As soon as I started reading it I thought bloody hell it sounds just like Tom.

At the risk of boring everyone to death these are the symptoms... I've starred the ones that Tom has...

Characteristics Considered to Distinguish Russell-Silver syndrome Children From Other Small for Gestational Age Children:

body asymmetry -LARGE side is "normal" side
inadequate catch-up growth in first 2 years * not catching up in the slightest
persistently low weight-for-height *
lack of interest in eating *
lack of muscle mass and/or poor muscle tone *
broad forehead *
large head size for body size *
hypoplastic (underdeveloped) chin & midface *
downturned corners of mouth & thin upper lip *
high-arched palate *
small, crowded teeth ....Don't know, only 4 so far!
low-set, posteriorly rotated &/or prominent ears *well...more prominent than Jake's anyway
unusually, high-pitched voice in early years *
clinodactly (inward curving) of the 5th finger
syndactyly (webbing) of the 2nd and 3rd toes
hypospadius - abnormal opening of the penis *
cryptorchidism - undescended testicles
café-au-lait (coffee-with-milk) birth marks
dimples in the posterior shoulders and hips *
narrow, flat feet *
scoliosis - curved spine, associated with spinal asymmetry and accentuated by a short leg

Characteristics of Small for Gestational Age Patients in General That Are Seen More Often in Russell-Silver syndrome Patients:

fasting hypoglycemia & mild metabolic acidosi *
generalized intestinal movement abnormalities:
esophageal reflux resulting in movement of food up from stomach into food tube
delayed stomach emptying resulting in vomiting or frequent spitting up
slow movement of the small intestine &/or large intestine (constipation)
blue sclera (bluish tinge in white of eye)
late closure of the anterior fontanel (soft spot) *
frequent ear infections or chronic fluid in ears * suspected glue ear
congenital absence of the second premolars
delay of gross and fine motor development *
delay of speech and oral motor development
kidney abnormalities
delayed bone age early, later fast advancement
early pubic hair and underarm odor (adrenarche)
early puberty or rarely true precocious puberty
classical or neurosecretory growth hormone deficiency
ADD and specific learning disabilities



Anyway... we shall see what the geneticist has to say. Blood tests can't always say yay or nay and mostly it is diagnosed on the symptoms above.
I have realised though that Tom is probably going to need the same kind of treatment as an RSS child even if we don't have a diagnosis and are just left with IUGR. If his weight gain doesn't improve he'll be teeny tiny forever so growth hormone will prob have to be the route we go down. Feel a bit daft for merrily thinking over this last year that he'll catch up on his own.
Have got an appt in April ( ) with the dietician but am going to try and bring it forward as he could be on high cal supplements now making a difference already. Also got an appt with the audiology dept in a couple of weeks. Really hoping his ears are ok. Thinking he may have glue ear at the mo.
Loocy, can't believe how far along you are. Did I say my brother is expecting their 2nd now? Probably did... start of Sept. Its taken the edge off my broodiness for now

Sorry.. have rambled about me me me stuff AGAIN.
Must get to bed while all is quiet.
Lots of love to everyone xxxxxxxxx

OMG Summer how on earth did you find all that?? YOu really are a super-sleuth. you seem to be taking it all in your stride, mind! So what happens now? Will he just be small for his age or are there other complications? And what's the treatment? Sorry for so many questions - just fascinated with poor wee Tom.

I sense a feeling you're all getting broody hence so many questions about me being pregnant !!! Hey who wants to be first to join me??! Well, this time am much more tired - really struggling with it and slept for an hour and a half yesterday afternoon - fell asleep on the bed with Eilidh. DH didn't want to disturb us as he said we looked so sweet both of us lying there crashed out!!! So totally shattered, but so much more relaxed about it all - not worried about birth in the slightest - just not loooking forward to the last few yukky heavy weeks. Yes baby is moving around like a good one these days but it's the squiggly movement, not the proper kicks that you get later on!!! Bump is progressing well and am pleased to report that I'm nothing like the weight I was at this point last time - i've only put on 12 lbs so far, which I don't think is too bad for half way. Other than that, picking E up is starting to get hard for me and can't wait til I start blooming although I didn't last time, so think I'm not going to this time. Oh yes and the permanent hunger - you forget how hungry you are constantly!!!!! Oh and after the disappointment of my boobs being smaller after bf Eilidh, they are back up to a B cup which is great

Hope everyone else is well - better do some work

Loocy xxx

a quick one tonight, just wanted tell yous..


Katie took her first steps today, 2 of them!!
Shes been wanting to take those 1st few steps all week and finally did it.

Hurrah to Katie's independence!!!! There'll be no stopping her now, you do realise that!!! Congrats to Katie

Like Katie obviously was, Eilidh is dying to strike out on her own but just isn't quite confident enough to do it! She stands and tries to move one leg but it just goes from side to side at the minute. She'll get there!!!

Hope all is well
Loocy xxx